Minutes, IBIS Quality Committee 03 March 2015 11:00-12:00 EST (08:00-09:00 PST) ROLL CALL Ericsson: Anders Ekholm Intel: Michael Mirmak IO Methodology * Lance Wang Signal Integrity Software * Mike LaBonte Teraspeed Labs: * Bob Ross Everyone in attendance marked by * NOTE: "AR" = Action Required. -----------------------MINUTES --------------------------- Mike LaBonte conducted the meeting. Call for IBIS related patent disclosures: - None Call for opens: - Mike: Has there been a reply regarding the IBISCHK development quote request? - Bob: No, this is a concern. ARs: - Mike produce text files for each IBISCHK message that has no comment. - Not done. - Mike recover percent format specifications in spreadsheet. - No new progress. - Mike add comments to CMPNT, DLY, MSPEC sections. - No new progress. - Lance add comments to EBD section. - No new progress. - Bob add comments to CIRCUIT section. - No new progress. Test Load and Data: - Mike showed a compendium of selected meeting minutes from 2010 and 2011: - Mike: These have our key discussions regarding External Test Load and Data. - Anders Ekholm first proposed the idea in October of 2010. - Mike showed a presentation by Anders Ekholm - Mike: Anders showed required test topologies. - This includes differential buffers. - Mike showed [Test Load] and [Test Data] sections in the IBIS6 specification. - Mike: IBIS-ISS would easily accommodate all of these. - Bob: In IBIS-ISS we cannot have PWL tables. - Mike: That was to keep it passive. - Bob: IBIS-ISS might allow us to generalize Test_load_type. - Lance: We could limit the IBIS-ISS circuit elements that are allowable. - That would simplify it. - Mike: What elements would not be allowed? - Lance: W element for example. - Mike: IC vendors might use those in their test circuits. - Bob: It could be just a recommendation to avoid them. - Some elements exacerbate tool differences. - Mike: Could [External Circuit] be used for a test load? - We could define pins that are not really part of the package. - External circuits with buffers would be attached to these. - Test data would give the pin waveforms. - Bob: Those are pads, not pins. - Mike: Even better. - Bob: IBIS6 page 123 has an example. - With [External Circuit] you have to look at the D_to_As and A_to_Ds to determine model type. - Mike: We could have restrictions, those would not be used. - Bob: That is adding complexity to an already complex feature. - You also might want to probe internal ports. - Mike: It should be possible to bring those out in [External Circuit]. - Anders' various configurations should be representable. - For example a diff pair talking to another diff pair through a channel. - Bob: Anders' proposal has multiple test points. - This idea could also handle typ, min, max corners. - [External Model] is a top level keyword, so it becomes available. - Mike: It is invoked by [Circuit Call] under [Component] - Bob: We would need multiple waveforms if there are multiple probe points. - [Test Data] has rising_near, rising_far, etc. - Mike: [Test Notes] would be needed to describe the tests. - Bob: A tool would be needed to generate this. - Lance: This idea might work out. Next steps: - Bob: We should focus on the IBISCHK6 User Guide before continuing this. Meeting ended: 12:06 Next meeting March 10